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+NWG/RFC #372                                           Richard W. Watson
+NIC 11022                                              (SRI-ARC)
+                                                       12-JUL-72
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+NOTES ON A CONVERSATION WITH BOB KAHN ON THE ICCC
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+I called Bob Kahn and had a good chat with him about some aspects
+of the ICCC meeting demonstration.  The points discussed and his
+answers were the following.
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+What is the physical environment going to be like?
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+   Bob has arranged for the Georgetown Ballroom of the Hilton
+   Hotel; it has 3000 square feet probably about 75x40 (exact
+   dimensions are not known to Bob at this time).
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+   A carpeted false floor is to be installed and there will be
+   a partition for an area to show a movie on resource sharing
+   which will run more or less continuously.
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+   There will not be booths in the normal sense but details
+   are not yet worked out.  Bob expects to have tables
+   arranged around the room holding 1 or 2 terminals and low 4
+   ft. partitions to break up the space.
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+Who will man the booths?
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+   Bob presently expects many terminals to be unmanned,
+   although manufcturers could have a sales rep.
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+   There will probably be people from net sites at some of
+   them from time to time to demonstrate their programs.
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+   We discussed the need for lots of experts from the network
+   around who can answer questions and help people.  Bob is in
+   favor of such a thing but has not had time yet to pull such
+   a group together and there is some uncertainty if enough
+   people will volunteer, his initial approach to people
+   yielded lots of people interested but with other things to
+   do.
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+there?
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+NWG/RFC# 372                            RWW 12-JUL-72 9:39  11022
+Notes on a Conversation with Bob Kahn on the ICCC
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+The conference is tues-thurs oct 24-26 and at the moment
+the room is only going to be available from the 22nd.  This
+seems to be a short time to install floor, TIP, terminals,
+phone lines, etc and Bob is going to try to get the room
+the previous Wed or Fri, but doesn't know yet.
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+Bob would like to have working demo with terminals,
+resources at BBN in Aug.
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+What resources are presently committed?
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+   UCLA Klinerock will have some network measurement stuff to
+   demonstrate.
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+   Stanford AI has indicated they will have some programs to
+   demone.
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+   Utah Tony Hearn will have his Reduce program to demo, Berry
+   Wessler plans to demo something, Harvey Greenfield has some
+   sort of mdical program.
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+   RAND before recent sakeup indicated iterest, status now not
+   known.
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+   SDC will have some natural language programs and their
+   data management systems.
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+   MIT Vezza and Kahn are looking into having some hardcopy
+   device such as Photon attached to a GE TS system.  Al has
+   some other things to demo.
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+   Bob has contacted a number of non net sources such as the
+   NY Times (data base), Eastern Airlines etc., but has no
+   definite commitments yet.
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+   We at ARC will of course have a number of things to
+   demonstrate.
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+This ARPANET demo is the only show at the conference.  Larry
+Roberts has invited the ASIS people over for Thurs afternoon.
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+NWG/RFC# 372                            RWW 12-JUL-72 9:39  11022
+Notes on a Conversation with Bob Kahn on the ICCC
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+The TIP has at this time never been tested with 64 terminals,
+but they are going to be putting as many terminal on as
+possible during July and testing the terminal to be supplied
+ford the conference.
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+Starting about AUg 1 he expects to start testing to see what
+terminals work with what resources and what glitches exist.
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+I asked Bob if we could have enough space for a ARC NIC booth
+with an IMLAC TI and room for people to watch our demo's.  Bob
+saw no problem there; IMLAC has committed 2 terminals and we
+can have one.  TI has not indicated they plan to loan terminal
+for the show.  Hiram French is the man from IMLAC who is
+supposed to call us.  If there are more than 64 terminal or
+the TIP can't support all, then they will have to schedule
+terminal connections to the TIP.
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+Bob is not sure who will be at the conference, its theme is
+networks and their impact on soceity, implications for
+regulation etc. so ther should be a broad spectrum of people;
+will send me a program.
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+We talked about what kind of documentation help, signs etc
+will be around to help people connect and use resources and
+generally understand wha the deomo is allabout.
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+   Bob's present picture is some large 2x3 signs in the lobby
+   outside the main lecture room directing people to the demo
+   and then some signs inside explaining what's happening, a
+   card with some TIP commands,resources, a brochure with
+   actual scenerios of resource usage, the movie and some
+   people as the main on the floor sources of help.
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+   We talked about the need to coordinate all this with NIC
+   documentation and our desire to help design all this.  Bob
+   and I are tentatively planning to get together the weekend
+   of July 7 here to plan this.  We need to have
+   thoughtcthrough ahead of time what we think should be done.
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+ARPA except for Bob does not seem to have set up any budget for
+this show except what their contractors are essentially willing
+to give as part of their ongoing research, therefore he has a
+very difficult job of pulling off such a large show without more
+help than he seems to have gotten so far (these are my
+conclusions not satements of his).
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+       [ This RFC was put into machine readable form for entry ]
+       [ into the online RFC archives by BBN Corp. under the   ]
+       [ direction of Alex McKenzie.                      1/97 ]
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