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authorThomas Voss <mail@thomasvoss.com> 2024-11-27 20:54:24 +0100
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+Network Working Group Wayne Hathaway
+RFC # 512 AMES-67
+NIC # 16443 25 May 1973
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+ MORE ON LOST MESSAGE DETECTION
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+I would like to second Edwin Meyer's (RFC #492) strong opposition to the
+proposals made in RFC #467 concerning solutions to the "lost allocate"
+and "half-closed" phenomena. In particular I support all of his
+principles concerning the "half-closed" phenomenon. I also agree that
+the proposed "lost allocate" solution tends to mask the real problem of
+lost messages. I would, however, like to propose the following
+alternative scheme for recognizing lost messages.
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+I propose that one of the two unused eight-bit bytes in the level 2
+message leader be designated the "Sequence Control Byte" (SCB). This
+SCB would be essentially a modulo 255 message count. Upon receipt of a
+message, the receiving NCP would compare the SCB in the previous the
+message with the expected SCB as computed from the SCB in the previous
+message on the same link. A discrepancy indicates a lost message, which
+could then be reported immediately via an appropriate ERR message. This
+ERR message (to be defined) would contain both received and expected
+SCB's, allowing possible recovery of the lost message (if sufficient
+space were available in the sending host to save the last several
+messages for each link). At any rate, the lost message would be
+recognized immediately, whether it was an ALL (or any control message)
+or a data message. The message with the unexpected SCB should be
+processed normally, with the SCB for the next message computed from it.
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+For compatibility, the SCB would be defined such that an SCB of zero
+indicates that no checking is to be done. The SCB following 255 would
+thus be 1. This would mean that current NCP's would not have to be
+changed unless actual checking were desired (since the level 2 protocol
+specifies that these two unused bytes must be zero.) This special
+definition of zero SCB would also allow RST's and ERR's to bypass
+checking, which would be useful in avoiding possible loops.
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+This proposed scheme is similar to the second scheme suggested by Jon
+Postel (RFC #516) except that it is on a per-link basis rather than a
+per-host basis. This is significant, however, as it removes the
+requirement that all messages from one host to another arrive in the
+order sent (which cannot be guaranteed). It also provides for
+compatibility with existing NCP's. Jon's first proposal (save all
+messages until RFNM received) is weak in two areas: first, it is
+possible that the receiving IMP has sent a RFNM for a message that in
+fact never gets to its host, and second, it requires (at least for
+swapped systems such as ours) either that messages be saved in resident
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+Hathaway [Page 1]
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+RFC 512 MORE ON LOST MESSAGE DETECTION May 1973
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+storage (expensive) or that RFNM's be handled by a swapped process (also
+expensive). The third proposal (that of a host-to-host acknowledgment
+scheme) is perhaps the best, but as that requires quite major changes to
+the level 2 protocol, an interim solution such as that proposed here
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+ [ This RFC was put into machine readable form for entry ]
+ [ into the online RFC archives by Alex McKenzie with ]
+ [ support from GTE, formerly BBN Corp. 9/99 ]
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