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diff --git a/doc/rfc/rfc7418.txt b/doc/rfc/rfc7418.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..eaed6a4 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/rfc/rfc7418.txt @@ -0,0 +1,395 @@ + + + + + + +Internet Research Task Force (IRTF) S. Dawkins, Ed. +Request for Comments: 7418 Huawei +Category: Informational December 2014 +ISSN: 2070-1721 + + + An IRTF Primer for IETF Participants + +Abstract + + This document provides a high-level description of things for + Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) participants to consider when + bringing proposals for new research groups (RGs) into the Internet + Research Task Force (IRTF). This document emphasizes differences in + expectations between the two organizations. + +Status of This Memo + + This document is not an Internet Standards Track specification; it is + published for informational purposes. + + This document is a product of the Internet Research Task Force + (IRTF). The IRTF publishes the results of Internet-related research + and development activities. These results might not be suitable for + deployment. This RFC represents the individual opinion(s) of one or + more members of the IRSG Research Group of the Internet Research Task + Force (IRTF). Documents approved for publication by the IRSG are not + a candidate for any level of Internet Standard; see Section 2 of RFC + 5741. + + Information about the current status of this document, any errata, + and how to provide feedback on it may be obtained at + http://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7418. + +Copyright Notice + + Copyright (c) 2014 IETF Trust and the persons identified as the + document authors. All rights reserved. + + This document is subject to BCP 78 and the IETF Trust's Legal + Provisions Relating to IETF Documents + (http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info) in effect on the date of + publication of this document. Please review these documents + carefully, as they describe your rights and restrictions with respect + to this document. + + + + + + +Dawkins Informational [Page 1] + +RFC 7418 IRTF Primer for IETF December 2014 + + +Table of Contents + + 1. Introduction and Scope . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 + 2. The IRTF Is Not the IETF . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 + 2.1. Research and Engineering . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 + 2.2. Scope . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 + 2.3. Time Frames . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 + 2.4. Alternatives . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 + 2.5. Process . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 + 2.6. Charters . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 + 2.7. Deliverables . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 + 2.8. Completion . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 + 3. Now That You Know What Not to Do . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 + 4. Security Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 + 5. References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 + 5.1. Normative References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 + 5.2. Informative References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 + Acknowledgements . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 + Author's Address . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 + +1. Introduction and Scope + + This document provides a high-level description of things for + Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) participants to consider when + bringing proposals for new research groups (RGs) into the Internet + Research Task Force (IRTF). This document emphasizes differences in + expectations between the two organizations. + + IRTF RG guidelines and procedures are described in BCP 8 [RFC2014], + and this document does not change those guidelines and procedures in + any way. + +2. The IRTF Is Not the IETF + + A number of proposals from experienced IETF participants for new IRTF + RGs have encountered problems because the IETF participants were + making proposals appropriate for the IETF, but not for the IRTF. + [RFC2014] describes the origin of IRTF RGs but doesn't provide much + detail about the process, which is intended to be flexible and + accommodate new types of RGs. Lacking that detail, experienced IETF + participants fall back on what they know, assume that chartering an + IRTF RG will be similar to chartering an IETF working group (WG), + follow the suggestions in [RFC6771] to gather a group of interested + parties, and then follow the suggestions in [RFC5434] to prepare for + a successful BOF and eventually, a chartered WG. + + + + + + +Dawkins Informational [Page 2] + +RFC 7418 IRTF Primer for IETF December 2014 + + + Both of these documents are excellent references for proposals in the + IETF, but their suggestions may result in a proposal that is almost + the opposite of what the IRTF Chair is looking for in a proposal for + an IRTF RG. The mismatches fall into some consistent categories, and + this document lists the ones that come up repeatedly. + + The target audience of this document is IETF participants bringing + proposals to the IRTF. + + It's worth noting that the IRTF Chair has substantial autonomy on + what RGs are chartered and how they reach that stage. The IRTF Chair + at the time of writing is Lars Eggert. + +2.1. Research and Engineering + + "To me, the fundamental outcome of research is understanding, and + the fundamental outcome of engineering is a product." - Fred Baker + + In some ways, research is about a journey, and engineering is about a + destination. If a researcher answers a question in a way that opens + another question, that can be success. If an engineer keeps working + on a product without finishing it, that is usually a failure. + + Research can be open-ended, while engineering can come to a stopping + point when the result is "good enough" -- good enough to ship. + + "If it has to work when you're finished, it wasn't research, it + was engineering." - attributed to Dave Clark + +2.2. Scope + + IRTF RGs have a scope large enough to interest researchers, attract + them to the IRTF, and keep them busy doing significant work. Their + charters are therefore usually much broader than IETF WG charters, + and RGs often discuss different topics underneath the charter + umbrella at different times, based on current research interests in + the field. + + IETF WGs are chartered with a limited scope and specific + deliverables. If deliverables and milestones are known, the proposal + is likely too limited for the IRTF. + +2.3. Time Frames + + IRTF RGs bring researchers together to work on significant problems. + That takes time. The effort required by a RG is likely to take at + least three to five years, significantly longer than IETF WGs + envision when they are chartered. + + + +Dawkins Informational [Page 3] + +RFC 7418 IRTF Primer for IETF December 2014 + + +2.4. Alternatives + + IRTF RGs are encouraged to explore more than one alternative approach + to the chartered problem area. There is no expectation that the RG + will "come to consensus" on one approach. The RG may publish + multiple competing proposals as research produces results. + + IETF WGs normally use the IETF consensus process (as described in + [RFC7282]) to drive interoperable solutions into the market place. + That often includes reducing the number of approaches to something + manageable for an implementer, preferably one, whether that means + starting with an approach the WG participants agree on, or + considering alternatives with a view to picking one rather than + spending significant effort on alternatives that won't go forward. + + The IRTF, as an organization, may also charter multiple RGs with + somewhat overlapping areas of interest, which the IETF tries very + hard to avoid. + +2.5. Process + + All IRTF participants have the obligation to disclose IPR and + otherwise follow the IRTF's IPR policies, which closely mirror the + IETF's IPR policies; in all other aspects, IRTF RG operation is much + less constrained than IETF WG operation. + + Each IRTF RG is permitted (and encouraged) to agree on a way of + working together that best supports the specific needs of the group. + This freedom allows IRTF RGs to bypass fundamental IETF ways of + working, such as the need to reach at least rough consensus, which + IRTF RGs need not do. Therefore, the mode of operation of IRTF RGs + can also change over time, for example, perhaps becoming more like + IETF WG operation as the research the group has been progressing + matures. + +2.6. Charters + + The purpose of charters in the IRTF is to broadly sketch the field of + research that a group is interested in pursuing and to serve as an + advertisement to other researchers who may be wondering if the group + is the right place to participate. + + IETF WG charters tend to be very narrow. They are intended to + constrain the work that the working group will be doing, and they may + contain considerable text about what the working group will not be + working on. + + + + + +Dawkins Informational [Page 4] + +RFC 7418 IRTF Primer for IETF December 2014 + + +2.7. Deliverables + + There is no expectation that IRTF RGs publish RFCs, although many do. + Some IRTF research groups produce IRTF-stream RFCs, while others + produce Internet-Drafts that form the basis of IETF-stream RFCs, and + still others may deliver reports, white papers, academic journal + articles, or even carry out relevant high-level discussions that + aren't ever published but influence other research. IRTF RGs are + successful when they stimulate discussion, produce relevant outputs, + and impact the research community. + + IETF WG deliverables tend to be specific protocol, deployment, and + operational specifications, along with problem statements, use cases, + requirements, and architectures that inform those specifications. + Almost all IETF working groups are chartered to deliver Internet + standards, which isn't an option for IRTF RGs. + +2.8. Completion + + IRTF RGs may produce the outputs they expected to produce when they + were chartered, but it also happens that researchers consider what + they've learned and start work on better solutions. This can happen + whether or not the research underway has been completed, and the + process can continue until the RG itself decides that it is time to + conclude or when the IRTF Chair determines that there is no more + energy in the group to do research. + + IETF WGs will typically conclude when they meet their chartered + milestones, allowing participants to focus on implementation and + deployment, although the WG mailing list may remain open for a time. + +3. Now That You Know What Not to Do + + The current IRTF Chair, Lars Eggert, is fond of saying, "Just act + like an IRTF research group for a year, and we'll see if you are + one." + + There are many ways to "act like an IRTF research group". [RFC4440] + contains a number of points to consider when proposing a new RG. + Some possibilities include: + + 1. Identify and recruit a critical mass of researchers who can + review and build off each other's work. + + 2. Identify other venues that may overlap the proposed RG, and + understand what value the proposed RG provides beyond what's + already underway elsewhere. + + + + +Dawkins Informational [Page 5] + +RFC 7418 IRTF Primer for IETF December 2014 + + + 3. Hold a workshop to survey work that might set the stage for a RG + on questions of interest, perhaps in concert with existing + academic events. + + 4. If the proposed RG expects to have outputs that will ultimately + be standardized in the IETF, identify and recruit engineers who + can review and provide feedback on intermediate results. + + But every proposed RG is different, so e-mailing the IRTF Chair to + start the conversation is a perfectly reasonable strategy. + +4. Security Considerations + + This document provides guidance about the IRTF chartering process to + IETF participants and has no direct Internet security implications. + +5. References + +5.1. Normative References + + [RFC2014] Weinrib, A. and J. Postel, "IRTF Research Group Guidelines + and Procedures", BCP 8, RFC 2014, October 1996, + <http://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc2014>. + +5.2. Informative References + + [RFC4440] Floyd, S., Paxson, V., Falk, A., and IAB, "IAB Thoughts on + the Role of the Internet Research Task Force (IRTF)", RFC + 4440, March 2006, + <http://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc4440>. + + [RFC5434] Narten, T., "Considerations for Having a Successful Birds- + of-a-Feather (BOF) Session", RFC 5434, February 2009, + <http://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc5434>. + + [RFC6771] Eggert, L. and G. Camarillo, "Considerations for Having a + Successful "Bar BOF" Side Meeting", RFC 6771, October + 2012, <http://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc6771>. + + [RFC7282] Resnick, P., "On Consensus and Humming in the IETF", RFC + 7282, June 2014, <http://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7282>. + + + + + + + + + + +Dawkins Informational [Page 6] + +RFC 7418 IRTF Primer for IETF December 2014 + + +Acknowledgements + + Thanks go to Lars Eggert, who became IRTF Chair in 2011 and has been + carrying this information around in his head ever since. Lars also + provided helpful comments on early versions of this document. + + Thanks especially to Fred Baker for sharing thoughts about the + motivations of research and engineering that resulted in a complete + rewrite of Section 2.1. + + Thanks also to Scott Brim, Kevin Fall, Eliot Lear, David Meyer, and + Stephen Farrell for providing helpful review comments, and to Denis + Ovsienko for careful proofreading. + +Author's Address + + Spencer Dawkins (editor) + Huawei Technologies + + EMail: spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +Dawkins Informational [Page 7] + |