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+Network Working Group 17 March 1972
+Request For Comments # 309 Abhay Bhushan
+NIC # 9260 MIT-MAC
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+ DATA AND FILE TRANSFER WORKSHOP ANNOUNCEMENT
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+ MIT will host a workshop on Data and File Transfer, Friday,
+ April 14 and Saturday, April 15, 1972. People have expressed an
+ interest in revising the existing ARPANET Data and File Transfer
+ Protocols (RFC # 264 and RFC # 265), to make them more suitable
+ to fulfill the now better understood ARPANET requirements.
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+ The objective of this workshop is to arrive at a unified
+ convention for ARPANET data and file transfer. It is important
+ that we adequately consider the needs of TIP users, DATACOMPUTER
+ users, remote job entry users, and the major ARPANET service
+ systems.
+
+ In addition to the current members of the data and file
+ transfer protocol committee, I have invited a number of
+ interested parties to talk and participate in this workshop. On
+ the first day's agenda is a list of speakers who have agreed to
+ discuss their respective interests in data and file transfer. If
+ your interests have not been represented and you would like to
+ give a presentation or discuss a specific area, please contact me
+ (617-864-6900 Ext. 1428).
+
+ Participants are encouraged to have written position papers
+ ready at the time of this meeting. If possible, these papers
+ should be distributed as NWG/RFCs or informal notes to workshop
+ invitees, prior to the workshop.
+
+ As this meeting is intended to be an intensive workshop,
+ with the second half devoted to a detailed specification of
+ protocol, it will be necessary to limit attendance. The
+ attendance to this meeting is by invitation only. A list of
+ invitees is attached. If you have not been invited, and would
+ like to attend the workshop, please contact me.
+
+ Hotel reservations may be made at Random House, operated by
+ MIT's Real Estate office ($5.00 to $7.00/night), by contacting
+ either me or Sue Pitkin (617-864-6900 Ext. 1450) before March
+ 31st. If you would prefer other hotel accomodations instead, a
+ convenient hotel is the Fenway motor Hotel (Tel. 617-492-4777).
+
+ Please contact either me or Sue Pitkin if you intend to come.
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+NWG/RFC # 309 Abhay Bhushan
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+ AGENDA
+ ------
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+ FRIDAY April 14th, 1972
+ -----------------------
+
+ 8th Floor Conference Room, MIT Project MAC,
+ 545 Technology Square, Cambridge, Mass.
+
+ Morning Session -- 9:00 a.m.
+ ----------------------------
+
+ LIST OF SPEAKERS
+
+ Steve Crocker -- ARPA
+ Keynote Address and General Discussion
+
+ Richard Winter -- CCA
+ The DATACOMPUTER and ARPANET Protocols
+
+ William Crowther -- BBN-NET
+ Data and File Transfer to Terminal IMPs
+
+ Robert T. Braden -- UCLA-CCN
+ Remote Job Service on ARPANET -- A Server Viewpoint
+
+ John Heafner -- RAND
+ Remote Job Service on ARPANET -- A User Viewpoint
+
+ (LUNCH)
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+ Afternoon Session -- 1:30 p.m.
+ ------------------------------
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+ Ray Tomlinson -- BBN-TENEX
+ The TENEX View and Experience With "CPYNET"
+
+ Abhay Bhushan -- MIT-MAC
+ Current Data and File Transfer Strategies and
+ Some Measurement Results.
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+ GROUP DISCUSSION OF DATA TRANSFER PROTOCOL
+
+ Discuss revision and specific changes to the existing data
+ transfer protocol (RFC 264). See tentative discussion items for
+ DTP on page 4. You are expected to have read RFC 264 and be
+ familiar with it.
+
+ GROUP DISCUSSION OF FILE TRANSFER PROTOCOL
+
+ Discuss revision and specific changes to the existing file
+ transfer protocol (RFC 265). See tentative list of discussion
+ items on page 4. You are expected to have read RFC 265 and be
+ familiar with it.
+
+ AGENDA (Cont.)
+ --------------
+
+ SATURDAY April 15, 1972
+ ------------------------
+
+ 8th Floor Conference Room, MIT Project MAC,
+ 545 Technology Square, Cambridge, Mass.
+
+ Morning Session -- 9:00 a.m.
+ ----------------------------
+
+ WORKING SESSION ON DATA AND FILE TRANSFER PROTOCOLS
+
+ Objective is to come up with revised specifications for data
+ and file transfer protocols that fulfill current (existing and
+ anticipated) ARPANET needs. A unified approach is a desirable
+ goal to strive for.
+
+ Continuation of Friday's discussion of data and file
+ transfer protocols, incorporating specific ideas and changes in
+ the existing protocols.
+
+ Possible formation of a sub-committee whose task is to write
+ the revised specificaitons for DTP and FTP.
+
+ Afternoon Session -- 1:30 p.m.
+ ------------------------------
+
+ (TO BE DECIDED)
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+ Tentative List of Items for Discussion
+ --------------------------------------
+
+ Data Transfer Protocol (DTP)
+ ----------------------------
+
+ - DTP vs TELNET. Concept of extended TELNET, or
+ allowing use of ASCII in DTP.
+
+ - Error Control and recovery in DTP (use of
+ error checks, restart, etc.)
+
+ - Modes available -- handshake, only one mode, or use
+ of default.
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+ - Information separator, Aborts, and the Use
+ of Close (NCP-CLS) to Separate Information.
+
+ - Use of DTP with TIPs
+
+ - Use of DTP with DATACOMPUTER
+
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+ File Transfer Protocol (FTP)
+ ----------------------------
+
+ - Use of ICP, inter-mixing data and control,
+ transferring files to third connections
+ (possibly to different sites)
+
+ - The command language ASCII or codes
+
+ - Handling of data types and physical storage.
+
+ - Handling of descriptors and logical structure
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+ - Error control and error recovery
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+ - Use of FTP with TIPs
+
+ - Use of FTP with DATACOMPUTER
+
+ - Uniform Pathnames and the ARPANET virtual file system.
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+ List of Invitees
+ ----------------
+ R. T. Braden -- UCLA-CCN , A. Chan -- MIT-DMCG , S. D. Crocker --
+ ARPA , W. Crowther -- BBN-TIP , E. Harslem -- Rand , J. Heafner
+ -- Rand , A. McKenzie -- BBN-NET , J. Melvin -- SRI-ARC (NIC) ,
+ E. Meyer -- MIT-MULTICS , J. Postel -- UCLA-NMC , N. Ryan --
+ MIT-MULTICS , M. Seriff -- MIT-DMCG , R. Sundberg -- Harvard , R.
+ Tomlinson -- BBN-TENEX , R. Watson -- SRI-ARC (NIC) , J. White --
+ UCSB , R. Winter -- CCA
+
+ Suggested Reading
+ -----------------
+ It is recommended that prior to the workshop, attendees read
+ the following papers. This will greatly enhance the success of
+ the workshop.
+
+ 1. The Data Trnasfer Protocol, NWG/RFC # 264
+
+ 2. The File Transfer Protocol, NWG/RFC # 265
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+ 3. The Use of "Set Data Type" Transaction in File
+ Transfer Protocol, A. Bhushan, NWG/RFC # 294
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+ 4. Using ARPANET Remote Job Entry, E. Harslem, NWG/RFC # 307
+
+ 5. NETRJT -- Remote Job Service Protocol for TIPs,
+ R. T. Braden, NWG/RFC # 283
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+ 6. Interim NETRJS Specifications, R. T. Braden, NWG/RFC # 189
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+ 7. User's View of the DATACOMPUTER, R. Winter, NWG/RFC # 219
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+ 8. Data Language, CCA, NIC # 8208
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+ 9. A Suggested Addition to File Transfer Protocol,
+ A. McKenzie, NWG/RFC # 281
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+ 10. Revision of the Mail Box Protocol, NWG/RFC # 278
+
+ 11. Some Experience with File Transfer, H. Brodie,
+ NWG/RFC # 269
+
+ 12. ARPANET Specifications for UCSB's Simple-Minded
+ File System, J. White, NWG/RFC # 122
+
+ (In addition please also read any of the position papers
+ distributed prior to the workshop.)
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+ [ This RFC was put into machine readable form for entry ]
+ [ into the online RFC archives by BBN Corp. under the ]
+ [ direction of Alex McKenzie. 12/96 ]
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