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+Network Working Group G. Fishman
+Request for Comments: 3356 Bell Laboratories
+Obsoletes: 2436 S. Bradner
+Category: Informational Harvard University
+ August 2002
+
+ Internet Engineering Task Force and International
+ Telecommunication Union - Telecommunications
+ Standardization Sector Collaboration Guidelines
+
+Status of this Memo
+
+ This memo provides information for the Internet community. It does
+ not specify an Internet standard of any kind. Distribution of this
+ memo is unlimited.
+
+Copyright Notice
+
+ Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2002). All Rights Reserved.
+
+Abstract
+
+ This document provides guidance to aid in the understanding of
+ collaboration on standards development between the International
+ Telecommunication Union -- Telecommunication Standardization Sector
+ (ITU-T) and the Internet Society (ISOC) / Internet Engineering Task
+ Force (IETF). It is an update of and obsoletes RFC 2436. The
+ updates reflect changes in the IETF and ITU-T since RFC 2436 was
+ written. The bulk of this document is common text with ITU-T
+ Supplement 3 to the ITU-T A-Series Recommendations.
+
+ Note: This was approved by ITU-T TSAG on 30 November 2001 as a
+ Supplement to the ITU-T A-Series of Recommendations (will be numbered
+ as A-Series Supplement 3).
+
+Table of Contents
+
+ 1. Scope...........................................................2
+ 2. Introduction ...................................................2
+ 3. Guidance on collaboration.......................................3
+ 3.1 How to interact on ITU-T or IETF work items.....................3
+ 3.2 Representation..................................................4
+ 3.3 Document sharing................................................7
+ 3.4 Simple cross referencing........................................8
+ 3.5 Additional items................................................8
+ 4. Security Considerations........................................10
+ 5. Non-normative references.......................................10
+ 6. Acknowledgements...............................................10
+
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+ 7. Changes since RFC 2436.........................................10
+ 8. Author's addresses.............................................11
+ 9. Full Copyright Statement.......................................12
+
+1. Scope
+
+ This document provides guidance to aid in the understanding of
+ collaboration on standards development between the ITU-T and the
+ Internet Society (ISOC) / Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF).
+
+ In the IETF, work is done in Working Groups (WG), mostly through
+ open, public mailing lists rather than face-to-face meetings. WGs
+ are organized into Areas, each Area being managed by two co-Area
+ Directors. Collectively, the Area Directors comprise the Internet
+ Engineering Steering Group (IESG).
+
+ In the ITU-T, work is defined by study Questions which are worked on
+ mostly through meetings led by Rapporteurs. Questions are generally
+ grouped within Working Parties (WPs) led by a WP Chairman. Working
+ Parties report to a parent Study Group led by a SG Chairman.
+
+2. Introduction
+
+ The telecommunication industry is faced with an explosion in growth
+ of the Internet and other IP (Internet Protocol) based networks.
+ Operators, manufacturers and software/application providers alike are
+ reconsidering their business directions and Standards Development
+ Organizations and Forums and Consortia are facing an immense
+ challenge to address this situation.
+
+ These challenges were considered by TSAG in September 1998 and IETF
+ shortly thereafter, when it was initially recognized that the ITU-T
+ and ISOC/IETF were already collaborating in a number of areas, and
+ that this collaboration must be strengthened within the context of
+ changes in work emphasis and direction within the ITU-T on studies
+ related to IP based networks.
+
+ For example, many Study Groups already address aspects of IP based
+ networks. There are many topics of interest to ITU-T Study Groups in
+ the IP area that should be investigated (e.g., signaling, routing,
+ security, numbering & addressing, integrated management, performance,
+ IP - telecom interworking, access). Since many of these topics are
+ also being investigated by the IETF, there is a requirement for close
+ collaboration.
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+ The current level of cooperation between the ITU-T and the IETF
+ should be built upon to ensure that the competence and experience of
+ each organization is brought to bear in the most effective manner and
+ in collaboration with the other. This document provides guidelines
+ for collaboration between the ITU-T and the IETF.
+
+3. Guidance on Collaboration
+
+ This section builds on existing collaborative processes and details
+ some of the more important guidance points that each organization
+ should be aware of for effective collaboration.
+
+3.1 How to Interact on ITU-T or IETF Work Items
+
+ Study Groups that have identified work topics that are IP-related
+ should evaluate the relationship with topics defined in the IETF.
+ Current IETF Working Groups and their charters (IETF definition of
+ the scope of work) are listed in the IETF archives (see section 3.5).
+
+ A Study Group may decide that development of a Recommendation on a
+ particular topic may benefit from collaboration with the IETF. The
+ Study Group should identify this collaboration in its work plan
+ (specifically in that of each Question involved), describing the goal
+ of the collaboration and its expected outcome.
+
+ An IETF Working Group should also evaluate and identify areas of
+ relationship with the ITU-T and document the collaboration with the
+ ITU-T Study Group in its charter. The following sections outline a
+ process that can be used to enable each group to learn about the
+ other's new work items.
+
+3.1.1 How the ITU-T Learns About Existing IETF Work Items
+
+ The responsibility is on individual Study Groups to review the
+ current IETF Working Groups to determine if there are any topics of
+ mutual interest. Should a Study Group believe that there is an
+ opportunity for collaboration on a topic of mutual interest, it
+ should contact both the IETF Working Group Chair and the Area
+ Director(s) responsible.
+
+3.1.2 How the ITU-T learns about proposed new IETF work items
+
+ The IETF maintains a mailing list for the distribution of proposed
+ new work items among standards development organizations. The IETF
+ forwards draft charters for all new and revised Working Groups and
+ Birds Of a Feather session announcements to the IETF NewWork mailing
+ list. An ITU-T mail exploder is subscribed to this list. It is
+ recommended that each Study Group subscribe to this ITU-T exploder,
+
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+ which is maintained by the TSB. Members of the SG-specific listname
+ may include the SG Chairman, SG Vice Chairmen, Working Party
+ Chairmen, concerned Rapporteurs, other experts designated by the SG
+ and the SG Counselor. This will enable the SGs to monitor the new
+ work items for possible overlap or interest to their Study Group. It
+ is expected that this mailing list will see a few messages per month.
+ Each SG Chairman, or designated representative, may provide comments
+ on these charters by responding to the IESG mailing list at
+ iesg@ietf.org clearly indicating their ITU-T position and the nature
+ of their concern. Plain-text email is preferred on the IESG mailing
+ list.
+
+ It should be noted that the IETF turnaround time for new Working
+ Group charters is two weeks. As a result, the mailing list should be
+ consistently monitored.
+
+3.1.3 How the IETF Learns About ITU-T Work Items
+
+ The ITU-T work programme is documented in the Questions of each Study
+ Group. These can be found on the ITU-T web site.
+
+ Study Groups should send updates to the IETF NewWork mailing list as
+ they occur. Area Directors or WG Chairs should provide comments to
+ the relevant SG Chairman in cases of possible overlap or interest.
+
+3.2 Representation
+
+ ISOC, including its standards body IETF, is a Sector Member of the
+ ITU-T. As a result, ISOC delegates are therefore afforded the same
+ rights as other ITU-T Sector Members (see 3.2.1). Conversely, ITU-T
+ delegates may participate in the work of the IETF as representatives
+ of the ITU-T (see 3.2.2). To promote collaboration it is useful to
+ facilitate communication between the organizations as further
+ described below.
+
+3.2.1 IETF Recognition at ITU-T
+
+ Participants from the IETF may participate in ITU-T meetings as ISOC
+ delegates if the appropriate IETF Working Group (or Area) has
+ approved their attendance. This approval will be communicated to the
+ TSB in the form of a registration for a particular ITU-T meeting by
+ the IAB Chair.
+
+3.2.2 ITU-T Recognition at ISOC/IETF
+
+ ITU-T Study Group Chairmen can authorize one or more members to
+ attend an IETF meeting as an official ITU-T delegate speaking
+ authoritatively on behalf of the activities of the Study Group (or a
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+ particular Rapporteur Group). The Study Group Chairman sends the
+ ITU-T list of delegates by email to the Working Group chair, with a
+ copy to the Area Directors, and also to the Study Group. Note that,
+ according to IETF process, opinions expressed by any such delegate
+ are given equal weight with opinions expressed by other working group
+ participants.
+
+3.2.3 Communication Contacts
+
+ To foster ongoing communication between the ITU-T and IETF, it is
+ important to identify and establish contact points within each
+ organization. Contact points may include:
+
+ 1) ITU-T Study Group Chairman and IETF Area Director
+
+ An IETF Area Director is the individual responsible for overseeing
+ a major focus of activity with a scope similar to that of an ITU-T
+ Study Group Chairman. These positions are both relatively long-
+ term (of several years) and offer the stability of contact points
+ between the two organizations for a given topic.
+
+ 2) ITU-T Rapporteur and IETF Working Group Chair
+
+ An IETF Working Group Chair is an individual who is assigned to
+ lead the work on a specific task within one particular Area with a
+ scope similar to that of an ITU-T Rapporteur. These positions are
+ working positions (of a year or more) that typically end when the
+ work on a specific topic ends. Collaboration here is very
+ beneficial to ensure the actual work gets done.
+
+ 3) Other Contact Points
+
+ It may be beneficial to establish additional contact points for
+ specific topics of mutual interest. These contact points should
+ be established early in the work effort, and in some cases the
+ contact point identified by each organization may be the same
+ individual.
+
+ Note that the current IETF Area Directors and Working Group Chairs
+ can be found in the IETF Working Group charters. The current ITU-T
+ Study Group Chairmen and Rapporteurs are listed on the ITU-T web
+ page.
+
+3.2.4 Communication
+
+ Informal communication between contact points and experts of both
+ organizations is encouraged. However, note that formal communication
+ from an ITU-T Study Group, Working Party or Rapporteur to an
+
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+ associated IETF contact point must be explicitly approved and
+ identified as coming from the Study Group, Working Party or
+ Rapporteur Group, respectively. Formal communication from the ITU-T
+ to the IETF should be addressed to the appropriate Working Group
+ Chairs and Area Directors with a copy to the email address
+ "statements@ietf.org." These communications are placed by the IETF
+ onto a liaison statements web page at
+ http://www.ietf.org/IESG/liaison.html. An individual at the IETF is
+ assigned responsibility for dealing with each communication that is
+ received. The name and contact information of the responsible person
+ is listed with the links to the communications on this web page.
+
+ Conversely, formal communication from an IETF Working Group or Area
+ Director must also be explicitly approved and identified before
+ forwarding to any ITU-T contact. This approval is indicated in IETF
+ communication by copying the appropriate Working Group Chairs and
+ Area Directors. Formal communication is intended to allow the
+ sharing of positions between the IETF and the ITU-T outside of actual
+ documents (as described in 3.3). This would cover such things as
+ comments on documents and requests for input. The approved
+ communication is simply emailed from one body contact to another (the
+ appropriate mailing lists, as described in 3.2.5 may be copied).
+
+3.2.5 Mailing Lists
+
+ All IETF Working Groups and all ITU-T Study Group Questions have
+ associated mailing lists.
+
+ In the IETF, the mailing list is the primary vehicle for discussion
+ and decision-making. It is recommended that the ITU-T experts
+ interested in particular IETF Working Group topics subscribe to and
+ participate in these lists. IETF WG mailing lists are open to all
+ subscribers. The IETF Working Group mailing list subscription and
+ archive information are noted in each Working Group's charter. In
+ the ITU-T, the TSB has set up formal mailing lists for Questions,
+ Working Parties and other topics within Study Groups (more detail can
+ be found on the ITU website). These mailing lists are typically used
+ for discussion of ITU-T contributions. Note that individual
+ subscribers to this list must be affiliated with an ITU-T member (at
+ this time, there is no blanket inclusion of all IETF participants as
+ members, however, as a member, ISOC may designate representatives to
+ subscribe). Alternatively, ITU-T members operate personal mailing
+ lists on various topics with no restrictions on membership (e.g.,
+ IETF participants are welcome).
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+3.3 Document Sharing
+
+ During the course of ITU-T and IETF collaboration it is important to
+ share working drafts and documents among the technical working
+ groups. Initially proposed concepts and specifications typically can
+ be circulated by email (often just repeating the concept and not
+ including the details of the specification) on both the IETF and
+ ITU-T mailing lists. In addition, working texts (or URLs) of draft
+ Recommendations, Internet Drafts or RFCs may also be sent between the
+ organizations as described below.
+
+ Internet Drafts are available on the IETF web site. The ITU-T can
+ make selected ITU-T documents available in a common FTP area on the
+ ITU-T web site. Although a communication can point to a URL where a
+ non-ASCII document (e.g., Word) can be downloaded, Word attachments
+ to an IETF mailing list are discouraged. It should also be
+ recognized that the official version of all IETF documents are in
+ ASCII.
+
+3.3.1 IETF to ITU-T
+
+ IETF documents (e.g., Internet Drafts) can be submitted to a Study
+ Group as a Contribution from ISOC. In order to ensure that the IETF
+ has properly authorized this, the IETF Working Group must agree that
+ the specific drafts are of mutual interest, that there is a benefit
+ in forwarding them to the ITU-T for review, comment and potential use
+ and that the document status is accurately represented in the cover
+ letter. Once agreed, the appropriate Area Directors would review the
+ Working Group request and give approval. The contributions would
+ then be forwarded (with the noted approval) to the TSB for
+ circulation as a Study Group Contribution (see 3.2.4).
+
+3.3.2 ITU-T to IETF
+
+ A Study Group or Working Party may send texts of draft new or revised
+ Recommendations, clearly indicating their status, to the IETF as
+ contributions in the form of Internet Drafts. Internet Drafts are
+ IETF temporary documents that expire six months after being
+ published. The Study Group or Working Party must decide that there
+ is a benefit in forwarding them to the IETF for review, comment and
+ potential use. Terms of reference for Rapporteur Group meetings may
+ authorize Rapporteur Groups to send working documents, in the form of
+ Internet Drafts, to the IETF.
+
+ In these cases, the document editor would be instructed to prepare
+ the contribution in Internet Draft format (in ASCII and optionally
+ postscript format as per [RFC2223]) and submit it to the Internet
+ Draft editor (email internet-drafts@ietf.org). Alternatively, the
+
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+ Study Group, Working Party or Rapporteur Group could agree to post
+ the document on a web site and merely document its existence with a
+ short Internet Draft that contains a summary and the document URL.
+ The URL can point to a Word document as long as it is publicly
+ available and with the understanding that it will not be eligible for
+ publication as an RFC in that format.
+
+ Both the Rapporteur and the Document Editor should be identified as
+ contacts in the contribution. The contribution must also clearly
+ indicate that the Internet Draft is a working document of a
+ particular ITU-T Study Group.
+
+3.3.3 ITU-T & IETF
+
+ It is envisaged that the processes of 3.3.1 & 3.3.2 will often be
+ used simultaneously by both an IETF Working Group and an ITU-T Study
+ Group to collaborate on a topic of mutual interest.
+
+ It is also envisaged that the outcome of the collaboration will be
+ the documentation in full by one body and its referencing by the
+ other (see section 3.4 for details). That is, common or joint text
+ is discouraged because of the current differences in procedures for
+ document approval and revision. Where complementary work is being
+ undertaken in both organizations that will result in Recommendations
+ or RFCs, due allowance should be given to the differing perspectives,
+ working methods, and procedures of the two organizations. That is,
+ each organization should understand the other organization's
+ procedures and strive to respect them in the collaboration.
+
+3.4 Simple Cross Referencing
+
+ ITU-T Recommendation A.5 describes the process for including
+ references to documents of other organizations in ITU-T
+ Recommendations. Information specific to referencing IETF RFCs is
+ found at http://www.itu.int/itudoc/itu-t/sdo/ref-a.5/isocietf.html.
+
+ IETF RFC2026, specifically section 7.1.1, describes the process for
+ referencing other open standards (like ITU-T Recommendations) in IETF
+ RFCs.
+
+3.5 Additional Items
+
+3.5.1 Several URLs to IETF procedures are provided here for information:
+
+ RFC2223 - Instructions to RFC Authors, October 1997
+ http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2223.txt
+
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+ RFC2026 - The Internet Standards Process Revision 3, October 1996
+ http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2026.txt
+
+ RFC2418 - IETF Working Group Guidelines and Procedures, September
+ 1998 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2418.txt
+
+ Current list and status of all IETF RFCs:
+ ftp://ftp.ietf.org/rfc/rfc-index.txt
+
+ Current list and description of all IETF Internet Drafts:
+ ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/1id-abstracts.txt
+
+ Current list of IETF Working Groups and their Charters: (includes
+ Area Directors and Chair contacts, Mailing list information, etc.)
+ http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/wg-dir.html
+
+ RFC Editor pages about publishing RFCs:
+ http://www.rfc-editor.org/howtopub.html
+
+ Current list of liaison statements:
+ http://www.ietf.org/IESG/liaison.html
+
+ IETF Intellectual Property Rights Notices:
+ http://www.ietf.org/ipr.html
+
+3.5.2 Current ITU-T information can be found on the ITU website:
+ (includes contacts, organization, Recommendations for purchase,
+ mailing list info, etc.)
+
+ ITU-T Main page: http://www.itu.int/ITU-T
+
+ List of all ITU-T Recommendations:
+ http://www.itu.int/publibase/itu-t/
+
+ ITU-T Study Group main page for Study Group NN (where NN is the
+ 2-digit SG number):
+ http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/studygroups/comNN/index.html
+
+ ITU-T Special Study Group on IMT-2000 and beyond:
+ http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/studygroups/ssg/index.html
+
+ Intellectual Property policies, forms and databases:
+ http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/dbase/patent/index.html
+
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+ ITU-T operational matters including:
+ Recommendation A.1 - Study Group work methods
+ Recommendation A.2 - Preparation of written contributions
+ Recommendation A.4 - Communication process between ITU-T and
+ forums and consortia
+ Recommendation A.5 - Include reference to documents of other
+ organizations in ITU-T Recs
+ Recommendation A.8 - Alternative Approval Process for
+ Recommendations: http://www.itu.int/itudoc/itu-t/rec/A
+
+ ITU T Procedures including:
+ Resolution 1 - Rules of Procedure for ITU-T
+ Resolution 2 - Study Group responsibility and mandates
+ http://www.itu.int/itudoc/itu-t/wtsa-res/index.html
+
+ Authors Guide for drafting ITU-T Recommendations:
+ http://www.itu.int/itudoc/itu-t/guide/64657.html
+
+ Templates for contributions:
+ http://www.itu.int/itudoc/itu-t/com2/template/w2000tem/index.html
+
+4. Security Considerations
+
+ Documents that describe cooperation procedures, like this one does,
+ have no direct Internet security implications.
+
+5. Non-normative references
+
+ [RFC2026] Bradner. S, " The Internet Standards Process -- Revision
+ 3", BCP 9, RFC 2026, October 1996.
+
+ [RFC2223] Postel, J. and J. Reynolds, "Instructions to RFC Authors",
+ RFC 2223, October 1997.
+
+ [RFC2436] Brett, R., Bradner, S. and G. Parsons, "Collaboration
+ between ISOC/IETF and ITU-T", RFC 2436, October 1998.
+
+6. Acknowledgements
+
+ This document is based on the text from RFC 2436 and benefited
+ greatly from discussions during the November 2001 ITU-T TSAG meeting.
+
+7. Changes since RFC 2436
+
+ The wording has been cleaned up in a number of places, a few
+ additional references have been provided, and the details of the
+ cooperation process have been modified slightly.
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+ Sec 3.2.1 - Registration for IETF representatives to ITU-T meetings
+ is now done by IAB Chair instead of the ISOC VP for Standards.
+ Sec 3.2.2 - Notice of ITU-T delegates to IETF Working Group meetings
+ is now sent to the Working Group chairs and appropriate Area
+ Directors instead of the ISOC VP for Standards.
+ Sec 3.2.4 - Official communications from the ITU-T to the IETF now
+ are sent to the appropriate Working Group Chairs and Area
+ Directors with a copy to the email address "statements@ietf.org"
+ instead of to the ISOC VP for Standards. A description of the new
+ IETF liaison statements web page was added. Official approval of
+ messages from the IETF to the ITU-T is now indicated by having the
+ appropriate Working Group Chairs and Area Directors copied on the
+ message.
+ Sec 3.3 - A description of the new ITU-T common FTP area was added.
+ Sec 3.3.1 - The appropriate Area Directors now review documents to be
+ sent to the ITU-T instead of the ISOC VP for Standards.
+ Annex A was removed as unneeded.
+
+8. Author's addresses
+
+ Gary Fishman
+ Bell Laboratories
+ 101 Crawfords Corner Road
+ Room 4D-605B
+ Holmdel, NJ 07733-3030
+ USA
+ +1 732 949 3401
+ EMail: garyfishman@lucent.com
+
+
+ Scott Bradner
+ Harvard University
+ 29 Oxford St.
+ Cambridge MA 02138
+ USA
+ +1 617 495 3864
+ EMail: sob@Harvard.edu
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+9. Full Copyright Statement
+
+ Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2002). All Rights Reserved.
+
+ This document and translations of it may be copied and furnished to
+ others, and derivative works that comment on or otherwise explain it
+ or assist in its implementation may be prepared, copied, published
+ and distributed, in whole or in part, without restriction of any
+ kind, provided that the above copyright notice and this paragraph are
+ included on all such copies and derivative works. However, this
+ document itself may not be modified in any way, such as by removing
+ the copyright notice or references to the Internet Society or other
+ Internet organizations, except as needed for the purpose of
+ developing Internet standards in which case the procedures for
+ copyrights defined in the Internet Standards process must be
+ followed, or as required to translate it into languages other than
+ English.
+
+ The limited permissions granted above are perpetual and will not be
+ revoked by the Internet Society or its successors or assigns.
+
+ This document and the information contained herein is provided on an
+ "AS IS" basis and THE INTERNET SOCIETY AND THE INTERNET ENGINEERING
+ TASK FORCE DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING
+ BUT NOT LIMITED TO ANY WARRANTY THAT THE USE OF THE INFORMATION
+ HEREIN WILL NOT INFRINGE ANY RIGHTS OR ANY IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF
+ MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
+
+Acknowledgement
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+ Funding for the RFC Editor function is currently provided by the
+ Internet Society.
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