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+Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) L. Eggert
+Request for Comments: 9245 NetApp
+BCP: 45 S. Harris
+Obsoletes: 3005 June 2022
+Updates: 3683
+Category: Best Current Practice
+ISSN: 2070-1721
+
+
+ IETF Discussion List Charter
+
+Abstract
+
+ The Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) discussion mailing list
+ furthers the development and specification of Internet technology
+ through the general discussion of technical, procedural, operational,
+ and other topics for which no dedicated mailing lists exist. As this
+ is the most general IETF mailing list, considerable latitude in terms
+ of topics is allowed, but there are posts and topics that are
+ unsuitable for this mailing list. This document defines the charter
+ for the IETF discussion list and explains its scope.
+
+ This document obsoletes RFC 3005 and updates RFC 3683.
+
+Status of This Memo
+
+ This memo documents an Internet Best Current Practice.
+
+ This document is a product of the Internet Engineering Task Force
+ (IETF). It represents the consensus of the IETF community. It has
+ received public review and has been approved for publication by the
+ Internet Engineering Steering Group (IESG). Further information on
+ BCPs is available in Section 2 of RFC 7841.
+
+ Information about the current status of this document, any errata,
+ and how to provide feedback on it may be obtained at
+ https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc9245.
+
+Copyright Notice
+
+ Copyright (c) 2022 IETF Trust and the persons identified as the
+ document authors. All rights reserved.
+
+ This document is subject to BCP 78 and the IETF Trust's Legal
+ Provisions Relating to IETF Documents
+ (https://trustee.ietf.org/license-info) in effect on the date of
+ publication of this document. Please review these documents
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+ to this document. Code Components extracted from this document must
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+ Trust Legal Provisions and are provided without warranty as described
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+
+ This document may contain material from IETF Documents or IETF
+ Contributions published or made publicly available before November
+ 10, 2008. The person(s) controlling the copyright in some of this
+ material may not have granted the IETF Trust the right to allow
+ modifications of such material outside the IETF Standards Process.
+ Without obtaining an adequate license from the person(s) controlling
+ the copyright in such materials, this document may not be modified
+ outside the IETF Standards Process, and derivative works of it may
+ not be created outside the IETF Standards Process, except to format
+ it for publication as an RFC or to translate it into languages other
+ than English.
+
+Table of Contents
+
+ 1. Introduction
+ 2. Charter for the IETF Discussion List
+ 3. Moderation
+ 4. Security Considerations
+ 5. IANA Considerations
+ 6. References
+ 6.1. Normative References
+ 6.2. Informative References
+ Acknowledgements
+ Authors' Addresses
+
+1. Introduction
+
+ The IETF discussion list [IETF-DISCUSS] furthers the development and
+ specification of Internet technology through the general discussion
+ of technical, procedural, operational, and other topics for which no
+ dedicated mailing lists exist. As this is the most general IETF
+ mailing list, considerable latitude in terms of topics is allowed.
+ However, there are posts and topics that are unsuitable for this
+ mailing list. This document defines the charter for the IETF
+ discussion list and explains its scope.
+
+ The IETF Note Well [NOTE-WELL] applies to discussions on the IETF
+ discussion list and all other IETF mailing lists, and requires
+ conformance with the IETF Guidelines for Conduct [RFC7154] and the
+ Anti-Harassment Policy [RFC7776], among others.
+
+ This document obsoletes [RFC3005], as it documents the use of other
+ mailing lists for discussions that were previously in scope for the
+ IETF discussion list, refers to applicable policies such as the
+ Guidelines for Conduct [RFC7154] and the Anti-Harassment Policy
+ [RFC7776], and clarifies moderation procedures. It also updates part
+ of Section 1 of [RFC3683], which copies the list of "inappropriate
+ postings" from [RFC3005]. The list in [RFC3683] is hence updated by
+ the new list in Section 2.
+
+2. Charter for the IETF Discussion List
+
+ The IETF discussion list is meant for discussions for which a more
+ appropriate list does not exist, such as discussions that do not fall
+ within the scope of any working group, area, or other established
+ list. When there is an existing venue for discussion, this should be
+ noted and discussion should be moved there.
+
+ When no dedicated mailing list exists for a topic, it may be
+ preferable to request that one be created [NON-WG-LISTS] rather than
+ discuss it on the IETF discussion list. Availability of the new list
+ may be announced on the IETF discussion list and on other related
+ lists, such as area lists.
+
+ Appropriate postings to the IETF discussion list include:
+
+ * Initial discussion of technical issues that are candidates for
+ IETF work, but appropriate mailing lists have not yet been
+ identified.
+
+ * Questions and clarifications concerning practical aspects of IETF
+ meetings, although most of these topics are better brought up on
+ the discussion list for IETF LLC administrative issues
+ [ADMIN-DISCUSS] or the attendee discussion list for a given IETF
+ meeting.
+
+ * Announcements of conferences, events, or activities that are
+ sponsored or endorsed by the IETF, IRTF, IAB or the Internet
+ Society, although the IETF announcement list [IETF-ANNOUNCE] is
+ the preferred list for these.
+
+ * Discussions of IETF direction, policy, and the standards process
+ in general, when a more suitable list (such as the discussion list
+ for IETF LLC administrative issues [ADMIN-DISCUSS], the IAB
+ discussion list for architectural issues [ARCH-DISCUSS], a meeting
+ attendees list, a process-oriented WG list, etc.) cannot be
+ identified.
+
+ These topics used to be in scope for the IETF discussion list, but
+ have since moved to dedicated lists:
+
+ * Last Call discussions of documents now take place on the IETF Last
+ Calls mailing list [LAST-CALLS].
+
+ * Discussion of IETF administrative policies now takes place on the
+ discussion list for IETF LLC administrative issues
+ [ADMIN-DISCUSS].
+
+ Inappropriate postings include:
+
+ * Advertising and other unsolicited bulk e-mail
+
+ * Discussion of subjects unrelated to IETF policy, meetings,
+ activities, or technical topics
+
+ * Uncivil commentary, regardless of the general subject, per the
+ IETF Note Well [NOTE-WELL]
+
+ * Announcements of conferences, events, or activities that are not
+ sponsored or endorsed by the IETF, IRTF, IAB, or the Internet
+ Society.
+
+3. Moderation
+
+ The IETF Chair appoints _Moderators_ (previously known as the
+ "sergeant-at-arms") for the IETF discussion list that are empowered
+ to restrict posting by a person, or to an email thread, when the
+ content is inappropriate and represents a pattern of abuse. They are
+ encouraged to take into account the overall nature of the postings by
+ an individual and whether particular postings are typical or an
+ aberration.
+
+ Moderation of the IETF discussion list, including the handling of any
+ appeals, is guided by the IETF discussion list charter specified in
+ Section 2, and the related guidance from Section 1 that applies to
+ all mailing lists. The moderators are selected from within the
+ community to moderate the community. Because the IESG and IAB are in
+ the appeals chain for moderator decisions (see below), the IETF Chair
+ therefore should not appoint a moderator who is serving in such a
+ role. If a moderator is selected for the IESG or IAB, they will step
+ down from the moderator team.
+
+ Apart from appointing moderators, the IETF Chair should refrain from
+ the day-to-day operation and management of the moderator team. The
+ moderator team will independently define, publish, and execute their
+ role; see the current set of operating procedures [MOD-SOP] and abuse
+ patterns [MOD-UPC]. The moderator team should reach out to the IETF
+ Chair for any conflict resolution in a timely manner.
+
+ Because a moderator serves at the discretion of the IETF Chair --
+ even if the IETF Chair is not otherwise involved in the operation of
+ the moderator team -- any moderator decision can be appealed to the
+ IETF Chair, per [RFC2026]. Decisions by the IETF Chair can be
+ appealed to the IESG as whole, again per [RFC2026].
+
+4. Security Considerations
+
+ The usual security considerations [RFC3552] do not apply to this
+ document.
+
+ Potential abuse of the moderation process for the suppression of
+ undesired opinions is counteracted by the availability of an appeals
+ process, per Section 3.
+
+5. IANA Considerations
+
+ This document does not request any IANA actions.
+
+6. References
+
+6.1. Normative References
+
+ [RFC2026] Bradner, S., "The Internet Standards Process -- Revision
+ 3", BCP 9, RFC 2026, DOI 10.17487/RFC2026, October 1996,
+ <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc2026>.
+
+6.2. Informative References
+
+ [ADMIN-DISCUSS]
+ IETF, "admin-discuss -- Discussion list for IETF LLC
+ administrative issues",
+ <https://ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/admin-discuss>.
+
+ [ARCH-DISCUSS]
+ IAB, "Architecture-discuss -- open discussion forum for
+ long/wide-range architectural issues",
+ <https://ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/architecture-discuss>.
+
+ [IETF-ANNOUNCE]
+ IETF, "IETF-Announce -- IETF announcement list. No
+ discussions.",
+ <https://ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce>.
+
+ [IETF-DISCUSS]
+ IETF, "ietf -- IETF-Discussion",
+ <https://ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>.
+
+ [LAST-CALLS]
+ IETF, "last-call -- IETF Last Calls",
+ <https://ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/last-call>.
+
+ [MOD-SOP] IETF, "Sergeant-at-Arms Standard Operating Procedures",
+ commit c1abcb0 , 9 October 2019,
+ <https://github.com/ietf/saa/blob/main/sop.md>.
+
+ [MOD-UPC] IETF, "Unprofessional commentary", commit e120305 , 8
+ October 2019, <https://github.com/ietf/saa/blob/main/
+ unprofessional-commentary.md>.
+
+ [NON-WG-LISTS]
+ IETF, "Non-Working Group Email List Guidelines",
+ <https://ietf.org/how/lists/nonwglist-guidelines/>.
+
+ [NOTE-WELL]
+ IETF, "Note Well", <https://ietf.org/about/note-well/>.
+
+ [RFC3005] Harris, S., "IETF Discussion List Charter", BCP 45,
+ RFC 3005, DOI 10.17487/RFC3005, November 2000,
+ <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc3005>.
+
+ [RFC3160] Harris, S., "The Tao of IETF - A Novice's Guide to the
+ Internet Engineering Task Force", RFC 3160,
+ DOI 10.17487/RFC3160, August 2001,
+ <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc3160>.
+
+ [RFC3184] Harris, S., "IETF Guidelines for Conduct", RFC 3184,
+ DOI 10.17487/RFC3184, October 2001,
+ <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc3184>.
+
+ [RFC3552] Rescorla, E. and B. Korver, "Guidelines for Writing RFC
+ Text on Security Considerations", BCP 72, RFC 3552,
+ DOI 10.17487/RFC3552, July 2003,
+ <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc3552>.
+
+ [RFC3683] Rose, M., "A Practice for Revoking Posting Rights to IETF
+ Mailing Lists", BCP 83, RFC 3683, DOI 10.17487/RFC3683,
+ March 2004, <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc3683>.
+
+ [RFC7154] Moonesamy, S., Ed., "IETF Guidelines for Conduct", BCP 54,
+ RFC 7154, DOI 10.17487/RFC7154, March 2014,
+ <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7154>.
+
+ [RFC7776] Resnick, P. and A. Farrel, "IETF Anti-Harassment
+ Procedures", BCP 25, RFC 7776, DOI 10.17487/RFC7776, March
+ 2016, <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7776>.
+
+Acknowledgements
+
+ Susan R. Harris authored [RFC3005], which this document replaces. In
+ addition to many technical contributions to the IETF, Susan authored
+ a number of other foundational documents, such as the original "IETF
+ Guidelines for Conduct" [RFC3184] and the original "Tao of the IETF"
+ [RFC3160]. Susan R. Harris passed away in early 2022. This
+ document is dedicated to her memory, as a small token of appreciation
+ of her many contributions.
+
+ The following people have made other contributions to this document:
+
+ * Adrian Farrel
+
+ * Barry Leiba
+
+ * Ben Kaduk
+
+ * Brian Carpenter
+
+ * Carsten Bormann
+
+ * Christian Huitema
+
+ * Dhruv Dhody
+
+ * Eric Rescorla
+
+ * Eric Vyncke
+
+ * Francesca Palombini
+
+ * John Scudder
+
+ * Lloyd Wood
+
+ * Martin Thomson
+
+ * Robert Wilton
+
+ * Subramanian Moonesamy
+
+ * Stephen Farrell
+
+Authors' Addresses
+
+ Lars Eggert
+ NetApp
+ Stenbergintie 12 B
+ FI-02700 Kauniainen
+ Finland
+ Email: lars@eggert.org
+ URI: https://eggert.org/
+
+
+ Susan Harris